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Postby Maki » 04 Aug 2011, 01:24

Ne daj Boze da ih neko sretne u mraku. :facepalm:
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Re: Izvan i iza turnira

Postby Liv » 07 Aug 2011, 00:44

Nikad pre nisam videla ovo, a nisu od skoro :biggrin:


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Re: Izvan i iza turnira

Postby Saint-Tropez » 07 Aug 2011, 22:07

Tiger Woods and Roger Federer are no longer the best—or BFFs
L. JON WERTHEIM

Initially, it felt less than authentic, cultivated as it was by their shared management agency, IMG and/or their mutual sponsors, Nike and Gillette. But the friendship between Tiger Woods and Roger Federer, masters of their domains, in the mid-aughts sure was good fun. There they were, texting each other, speaking glowingly of one another, even having dinner with their significant others. This was Picasso befriending Matisse, Elvis joining Sinatra for beers.

Federer and Woods made a habit of showing up at each other's events, helicoptering in—literally—and watching their analog. When Federer won the U.S. Open in 2006, Woods and his then wife, Elin, sat prominently in Federer's box. A few months later Federer showed up for one of Woods's practice rounds at the Doral event in Miami.
Spoiler: pokaži
The friendship had the ring of being genuine. Apart from their world domination and superhuman rations of talent, the two men had plenty else in common. Woods was married, Federer was in a long-term relationship with Mirka Vavrinec, whom he would wed in '09. Both had deep ties to Dubai—pre-recession Dubai, then the Monte Carlo for the new millennium. While Woods is almost six years older, both were in the meaty years of careers that appeared to have no limits.

A driving force behind the bonding, though, seemed to be a friendly competition over who would win more major titles, the coin of the realm in both their sports. Woods was on what appeared to be an inexorable march to eclipsing Jack Nicklaus's career record of 18. Federer was in hot pursuit of Pete Sampras's record of 14, a benchmark he would surpass in '09. With every title, they would text back and forth, tweaking the other. "We do needle each other pretty good," Woods once said. "But also, a lot of support. He's one of the first ones to always congratulate me and vice versa." For fans used to tweaking their buddies over fantasy league standings, this was delightfully heady stuff.

Their competition also gave rise to a spirited debate between golf and tennis coreligionists. Having exhausted the competition in their respective sports, which athlete was better—and, by extension, which sport was superior? When Woods won his first major, at the Masters in 1997, Federer was just a decent Swiss junior. Given that golfers can compete into their 40s, while tennis players usually hit their sell-by date around age 30, Woods appeared to enjoy an advantage. On the other hand, Federer soon became such a force that it was hard to imagine when he'd be dethroned. He not only caught up to Woods, but also overtook him and now leads 16--14.

It was around then, though, that time started to mistreat both men. Federer turns 30 this week, and it's been more than 18 months since his last major victory. While there's no shame in being ranked No. 3 behind the younger Novak Djokovic and Rafael Nadal, the field has finally caught up to Federer.

Woods's decline has been, to traffic in understatement, considerably less graceful. If Federer is not so far removed from the guy he was at the peak of his powers, Woods is thoroughly unrecognizable. Last week he dropped out of the top 20. He announced last Thursday that he would play in this week's Bridgestone Invitational, his first tournament in nearly three months, tweeting that he's "feeling fit and ready," but that remains to be seen. Next week's PGA Championship will be Woods's last chance of the year to win his first major since 2008. There was, of course, the humiliation of Thanksgiving night 2009 and the ongoing fallout. Concurrently, Woods's body has been staging a full-scale insurrection. He's 35 chronologically, but physically he's gone full-on geriatric.

Woods and Federer are still bracketed together, and the discussion is still largely about major titles. But the prevailing question goes like this: "Can either ever win another major again?" In both cases, the answer is "sure." Federer's window may be closing more quickly—how many chances does he have left? Maybe six? Eight?—but he's still a weekend regular at majors. Likewise, Woods may have lost his aura and his health, but not his talent. Still, we're a long way from just a few years ago when both men, using the other as a totem, could win three majors a year as a matter of ritual.


As the trajectories of their careers have changed, so it seems—sadly for fans—has the Federer-Woods friendship. When Federer speaks about Woods, he is, characteristically, benign, but it recalls Barack Obama's distancing himself from Jeremiah Wright before the association affects his approval ratings. (That Federer and Mirka have socialized with Woods's ex-wife, well, that says plenty.) On the rare occasion Woods talks about something other than golf these days, it's not to mention the texts and needling his tennis-playing buddy.

There is some consolation, though, as a new friendship among gods appears to be in the offing, this one greased by neither mutual sponsor nor agents. He was hard to spot, hidden as he was behind Dutchess something-or-other, shorn of an entourage, a security detail, or a trademark clothing line. But damn if that wasn't Rory McIlroy sitting in the Royal Box last month, watching Nadal and Djokovic play in the Wimbledon final.


Roger Federer dumped Tiger Woods after his divorce
By Chris Chase
They showed up at each other's tournaments, texted congratulatory messages and had a good-natured rivalry about who would win the most majors. What had first been a glorified photo op for two of IMG and Nike's biggest stars had blossomed into a friendship. Now, Roger Federer and Tiger Woods are no longer pals.

As Jon Wertheim details in this week's Sports Illustrated, Federer has distanced himself from Woods after Tiger's infamous Thanksgiving night incident in 2009. Though both men have been careful not to play up any rift, there has been a noticeable chill. Wertheim notes that Federer and his wife have socialized with Tiger's ex-wife, Elin Nordegren, and compares the freeze-out to what Barack Obama did to Jeremiah Wright during the 2008 presidential campaign.

The relationship felt forced from the outset. Whether that was because it was a friendship for the media's benefit or simply because Federer and Tiger have robotic public personas and are tough to get a read on is anyone's guess. I'd guess it was the former. The bond of being the best in their respective sports and wearing a swoosh on their shirts gave the two some common ground. Other than that, what did they really have in common?

Tiger was a womanizer. Federer seems to be a dedicated family man. One lived in Florida, the other in Switzerland. Maybe they were friends by the loose, superficial Hollywood definition of friendship, but I doubt Tiger was popping over to Roger's house on Sunday night to throw back some beers and watch "Entourage."
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Re: Izvan i iza turnira

Postby M.S. » 08 Aug 2011, 07:16

Zanimljivi tekstovi, a Verthajmov termin druženje među bogovima mi se jako dopao.

Uzgred, baš sam potrešena zbog prestanka "prijateljstva".
Najbolji je režim za sve ljude. Najgori su ljudi za sve režime.
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Re: Izvan i iza turnira

Postby Saint-Tropez » 08 Aug 2011, 19:06

U svetlu prethodne vesti evo jedne slicice
Slicica
Nema vise zagrljaja :D

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Re: Izvan i iza turnira

Postby Maki » 08 Aug 2011, 19:24

A ne,ne pogledaj ovu: :biggrin:

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Re: Izvan i iza turnira

Postby Saint-Tropez » 08 Aug 2011, 19:43

Nadal o prijateljstvu s Novakom i Fedom:


(casna res, samo se namestilo, ne jurim ovakve "teme"; zapravo trazim neki snimak s te egzibicije)
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Re: Izvan i iza turnira

Postby Liv » 08 Aug 2011, 20:23

Jedva chujem shta pricha. U principu ima dobar odnos s obojicom, Feda zna duzhe i vishe vremena provodi s njim..
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Re: Izvan i iza turnira

Postby Saint-Tropez » 08 Aug 2011, 20:29

Da, lose se cuje, a i Nadala nije uvek lako razumeti.

Evo jos malo slicica:
Novak i Fed

(ili je bolje da ovo ide na turnirsku temu?)
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Re: Izvan i iza turnira

Postby Liv » 08 Aug 2011, 20:30

Mozhe i tamo, poshto je vezano za turnir.
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Re: Izvan i iza turnira

Postby Saint-Tropez » 08 Aug 2011, 21:05

Interesantne slicice:
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Re: Izvan i iza turnira

Postby georgina » 09 Aug 2011, 11:30

Saint-Tropez wrote:Interesantne slicice:

wow, sta uradi dobar sminker i fotograf :blue:
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Re: Izvan i iza turnira

Postby Milutinov Tata » 09 Aug 2011, 15:44

#10 Gracias Dios, por el fútbol, por Maradona, por estas lágrimas.

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Re: Izvan i iza turnira

Postby Saint-Tropez » 10 Aug 2011, 19:52

Saint-Tropez wrote:Nadal o prijateljstvu s Novakom i Fedom:


(casna res, samo se namestilo, ne jurim ovakve "teme"; zapravo trazim neki snimak s te egzibicije)


Ovo je postavljeno na drugoj temi, a komentarise se i Nadalov odgovor iz ovog klipa gore: Link , pa da sad prokomentarisem:

Interesantno da je gospodja koja je pisala tekst Novaku dodelila ulogu Darth Vader-a zato sto Nadal nije u stanju da na isti nacin prihvati poraz od Novaka kao sto npr. Fed prihvata od Nadala (o cemu pise i cemu se divi) - ona na osnovu toga zakljucuje da je zapravo Novak negativac :krsti: uz komentar da "it’s hard to imagine Nadal disliking anyone". Ne znam samo kako se nije setila da proanalizira Novakovo ponasanje svih ovih godina kada je imao teske poraze upravo od Nadala (da ne nabrajam, znamo svi koje), pa je svaki put posle toga, iako mu je bilo tesko, srdacno cestitao Nadalu, cavrljao veselo s njim pri dobijanju utesnog tanjirica i zaista dostojanstveno podnosio poraz. Sad kad su se uloge promenile Nadal je uzdrzan, a gospodja zakljucuje da je u celoj prici zapravo Novak negativac! Alal vera na logici!

Da ne pominjem npr. epizodu (prepricanu od strane trecih lica) kada su se Nadalovi razvodili, pa Novak s njim sedeo u nekom holu i razgovarao s njim/tesio ga (to je bio komentar nekih osoba koje su to posmatrale). Tad su BILI prijatelji.

Izvinjavam se Nadalovim navijacima, ali ako je Fed ranije mogao da popije brojne kritike za ponasanje, moze vala i Nadal sada.
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Re: Izvan i iza turnira

Postby Milutinov Tata » 10 Aug 2011, 20:24

I ja sam hteo isto ovo da napisem :thumbup: . Novaka predstaviti na ovakav nacin je zaista smesno. Porazi bole, nisam primetio da se Federer osmehivao u Londonu 2008 ili da je iste godine veselo cavrljao posle osvojena 4 gema u finalu Pariza. Ne napisa da je posle finala US Opena Nadal prisao Novaku na klupi i zagrlio ga. Ne uklapa se u pricu. Novak Dart Vejder :krsti:

Cak ni Nadalu ove godine nije mnogo tesko sve padalo, do Madrida. Tada je realnost pokucala na vrata.
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