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Re: NBA vesti, transferi, aktuelnosti

Postby AirBall » 10 Oct 2011, 23:46

kezman wrote:Nemoj Statistu da mi razocaravas sad :biggrin:


Keza je tipicni predstavnik naseg naroda... Prvi put je zasao u pdf americka kosarka onda kad je shvatio da se tu prica o necemu sto se tice Partizana... :P
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Re: NBA vesti, transferi, aktuelnosti

Postby kezman » 10 Oct 2011, 23:47

AirBall wrote:
kezman wrote:Nemoj Statistu da mi razocaravas sad :biggrin:


Keza je tipicni predstavnik naseg naroda... Prvi put je zasao u pdf americka kosarka onda kad je shvatio da se tu prica o necemu sto se tice Partizana... :P

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Re: NBA vesti, transferi, aktuelnosti

Postby Statista » 10 Oct 2011, 23:52

kezman wrote:Nemoj Statistu da mi razocaravas sad :biggrin:

A šta tu mene može da "razočara" crni Kezo, pa čak i da večeras sve završe i da liga počne na vreme Peković će sigurno ostati do subote da se slatko ispovraća i po nama :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

Loš ti je nastup, ti uvek imaš gard i hejterski pristup prema simpatizerima drugih klubova pa misliš da su svi takvi. Ništa bolje od kvalitetne zajebancije i provokacije ali valjda si ustanovio do sada da ja ne želim Partizanu ništa loše. To se vi sa komšinicinim navijačama razjasnite, za mene nema dileme za koga navijam u EL ili za koga navijam kad srspki klubovi igraju protiv Hrvata. :triprsta:
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Re: NBA vesti, transferi, aktuelnosti

Postby Napredpartizan » 10 Oct 2011, 23:54

Brian Mahoney: Reports of meeting over were incorrect. But fear not, I've been assured it's expected to end tonight.

Uf,nacekacemo se mi jos ovde izgleda...
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Re: NBA vesti, transferi, aktuelnosti

Postby Alonzo » 11 Oct 2011, 00:00

AP reporting meeting has not ended but will end tonight. Awaiting word from NBA.

Jbg, izgleda da se pregovori nastavljaju...
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Re: NBA vesti, transferi, aktuelnosti

Postby kezman » 11 Oct 2011, 00:02

Statista wrote:
kezman wrote:Nemoj Statistu da mi razocaravas sad :biggrin:

A šta tu mene može da "razočara" crni Kezo, pa čak i da večeras sve završe i da liga počne na vreme Peković će sigurno ostati do subote da se slatko ispovraća i po nama :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

Loš ti je nastup, ti uvek imaš gard i hejterski pristup prema simpatizerima drugih klubova pa misliš da su svi takvi. Ništa bolje od kvalitetne zajebancije i provokacije ali valjda si ustanovio do sada da ja ne želim Partizanu ništa loše. To se vi sa komšinicinim navijačama razjasnite, za mene nema dileme za koga navijam u EL ili za koga navijam kad srspki klubovi igraju protiv Hrvata. :triprsta:

salim se bre sto si napet ,,, evo nastavljaju se pregovori ima sanse :biggrin:
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Re: NBA vesti, transferi, aktuelnosti

Postby AirBall » 11 Oct 2011, 00:06

alonzo wrote:Jbg, izgleda da se pregovori nastavljaju...


Pa jel imaju oni dusu... Nek idu da spavaju, pregovarace neki drugi put... :D
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Re: NBA vesti, transferi, aktuelnosti

Postby Napredpartizan » 11 Oct 2011, 00:07

Traje ovo vec 5 sati,ja idem da spavam,nadam se prijatnim vestima ujutru :)

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Re: NBA vesti, transferi, aktuelnosti

Postby irriducibili » 11 Oct 2011, 00:08

kezman wrote:salim se bre sto si napet ,,, evo nastavljaju se pregovori ima sanse :biggrin:

Ajde bre Kezo, kamo srece da su nam svi dusmani protivnicki navijaci kao Statista...

Covek se najavio za neku utakmicu EL-e, a i obozava naseg kapitena. Narocito njegovu minutazu... :roll:
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Re: NBA vesti, transferi, aktuelnosti

Postby Alonzo » 11 Oct 2011, 00:09

AirBall wrote:
alonzo wrote:Jbg, izgleda da se pregovori nastavljaju...


Pa jel imaju oni dusu... Nek idu da spavaju, pregovarace neki drugi put... :D


Nisu normalni, kao da mora sve da se zavrsi ovog meseca...:D
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Re: NBA vesti, transferi, aktuelnosti

Postby Golden Warrior » 11 Oct 2011, 00:10

Zavrsava se ovaj sastanak najkasnije za sat ipo vremena ipak pocinje monday night football 8-)
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Re: NBA vesti, transferi, aktuelnosti

Postby kezman » 11 Oct 2011, 00:16

Ajde ljudi odmorite malo ne mora sve da se skocka , polako ima vremena ...
objavite vi odlaganje pa da se nastavimo u decembru ovaj topik :biggrin: ...

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evo obecevam Airu nema me do tada na ovim americkim topicima :triprsta: ... pa nek Stren vidi sta mu je ciniti ...
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Re: NBA vesti, transferi, aktuelnosti

Postby kezman » 11 Oct 2011, 00:27

sad ce keza da sazna evo sta kazu
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Yes all, the meeting will end tonight. Nobody knows for sure when the lockout will end.


budti uz kezu donosim nove vesti brzo ..

php iz minuta u minut :manikir:

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47 seconds ago




Source briefed on the talks said it wasn't good news. Still trying to figure out why they didn't come out.

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Re: NBA vesti, transferi, aktuelnosti

Postby VMJunior » 11 Oct 2011, 07:00

NBA cancels first 2 weeks of season
NEW YORK -- Two weeks of the NBA season are gone and more are in jeopardy because of what commissioner David Stern calls "the gulf that separates us" in labor negotiations.

Sticking to his deadline, Stern wiped out the first two weeks of the season -- exactly 100 games -- after more than seven hours of negotiations failed to produce a new labor deal and preserve the Nov. 1 season openers.

The cancellations mark the NBA's first work stoppage since the 1998-99 season was reduced to 50 games.


The NBA and its players can stop pretending that the fans matter now. Monday's cancellation is all about business, writes J.A. Adande. Story

Clashing more over the salary cap structure than economics -- but still far apart on both -- Stern said both sides are "very far apart on virtually all issues. ... We just have a gulf that separates us.

"With every day that goes by, I think we need to look at further reductions in what's left of the season," he added.

Stern said last week that he would cancel the first two weeks of the season Monday without a new collective bargaining agreement to end the lockout. The two sides expect to remain in contact, but no additional formal talks have been scheduled.

"I started out by saying I'm sorry to report, and I'm sad to report that we've canceled the first two weeks," Stern said. "We certainly hoped it would never come to this. I think that both sides worked hard to get to a better solution. We think that we made very fair proposals. I'm sure the players think the same thing. But the gap is so significant that we just can't bridge it at this time."

Union president Derek Fisher agreed, emphasizing that missing any games puts the season in jeopardy.

"This is not where we choose to be," he said. "We're not at a place where a fair deal can be reached with the NBA."

The cancellation includes all games scheduled to be played through Nov. 14, and affected arenas have been authorized to release those dates.

Based on last year's average announced attendance leaguewide (just over 17,300 per game) and the average ticket cost last season, those now-canceled 100 games represent nearly $83 million in lost ticket sales -- before the first concession or souvenir is sold and before the first car pays to park.


With every day that goes by, I think we need to look at further reductions in what's left of the season.

-- NBA commissioner David Stern
Season-ticket holders, however, get refunds, plus interest, for all canceled games and an ESPN spokesman said the network "has a contingency plan consisting mostly of college football and basketball" to replace locked-out NBA games.

Though disappointing to both sides and especially to fans, the result isn't a complete surprise. The union had warned players for years to save their money, knowing a work stoppage seemed likely.

"I think it goes back to a comment that David made to me several years ago when he said, 'Look, this is what my owners have to have.' And I said, 'The only way you're going to get that is if you're prepared to lock us out for a year or two, and (this) indicated to me that they're willing to do it,' " executive director Billy Hunter said. "So my belief, my contention is that everything he's done has kind of demonstrated that he's following that script."

With another work stoppage, the NBA risks alienating a fan base that sent the league's revenues and TV ratings soaring during the 2010-11 season. And the cost of cancellations would be staggering. Deputy commissioner Adam Silver said the league would lose hundreds of millions of dollars; Hunter estimated players' losses at $350 million for each month they were locked out.

Now ushers, security personnel, parking lot attendants, concession workers, restaurant employees and others all stand to have their hours cut or join the country's 14 million unemployed. A few teams also have either trimmed their staffs or instituted sharp pay cuts -- some did that as the lockout began -- and more layoffs could be forthcoming.

"I think everybody is waiting for the players to cave," Hunter said. "They figure that once a player misses a check or two it's all over. I'm saying ... that would be a horrible mistake if they think that's going to happen, because it's not going to happen. The players are all going to hang in."

Hunter said he didn't think the full season was in jeopardy yet and stressed it would be a mistake for the NBA to risk it coming off a season when revenues and TV ratings soared.

"I think it would be foolish for them to kill the season, and we're coming off the best season in the history of the NBA and I'm not so sure in this kind of economy that if there is a protracted lockout whether the league will recover," he said. "It took us a while to recover from the '98 lockout, and I think it will take us even longer to recover this time around."


[The owners] figure that once a player misses a check or two it's all over. I'm saying ... that would be a horrible mistake if they think that's going to happen, because it's not going to happen.

-- Union executive director Billy Hunter
For the second straight day the sides focused on system issues instead of the division of revenue split. Stern rattled off concessions the league had made there, allowing guaranteed contracts, not rolling back salaries and giving players an option to shorten the deal. Players say they moved there, too, offering to reduce the value of the midlevel exception to $5 million for a maximum of four years, and reducing contract lengths to five years for players re-signing with their own teams to four years for changing teams. The league wants those, currently six and five, down to four and three.

Insisting it needs a system that allows all teams to compete no matter the market size, Stern and Silver said the sides are still apart on annual raises for players and the luxury tax for teams. Players counter that the league's idea of making the luxury tax more severe would have acted as hard cap, scaring too many teams from spending above the cap level.

A source familiar with the negotiations told ESPN The Magazine's Ric Bucher that the owners proposed a luxury-tax system that would charge teams $2 for every $1 they were over the limit. That would double the tax implemented in the labor agreement that expired on July 1, when the current lockout began.
According to the source, the owners also wanted any team whose player payroll stayed above the tax threshold for more than three years to pay $3 for every $1 in tax. If the team stayed above it for five years, the tax would be raised to $4 for every $1, the source said.

"We're surprised that's what still separates us," Silver said. "We would think that the players in this league would also want a system in which players on every team, if they play for well imagined teams, are on equal footing. I think it'll create a better game, and we think it'll create for hope for more fans in more community and it'll ultimately lead to more interest in our game."

Stern said the players still proposed they get 53 percent of revenues, whereas the league proposed they get 47 percent. The two sides had discussed a 50-50 split last week, but only in informal discussions, and given each BRI point was worth roughly $40 million last season, the gap between 3 points and 6 points is about $120 million in the first year of a deal.

Meeting Monday were: Stern, Silver, owners Peter Holt of San Antonio, Glen Taylor of Minnesota and James Dolan of New York, senior vice president and deputy general counsel Dan Rube, plus Hunter, Fisher of the Lakers and vice president Maurice Evans of the Wizards, and attorneys Jeffrey Kessler and Ron Klempner.

Players reacted quickly -- and in some cases, strongly -- on Twitter within minutes of the cancellations being announced.

Labor Pains
The NBA has been down this road once before, cancelling the first 32 games of the 1998-99 season.

Previous NBA Work Stoppages*
Season Days Total Games Missed Avg. Gms. Missed Per Team
1998-99 204 464 32
1996 1 0 0
1995 74 0 0
-- Source: ESPN Stats and Information
Miami guard Dwyane Wade said the situation "just got real" after he learned the first two weeks are now gone, then lashed out at Stern's comments in a second post.

"STERN's 'WORDS' 2day hurt the ppl who work at the AAA [American Airlines Arena] ,other arena's,as well as local businesses &our fans.. ... Those are the one's who are affected by STERN's 'WORDS' 2day..its a Lockout-NOT a Strike..," Wade wrote.

Minnesota rookie-to-be Derrick Williams, the No. 2 pick in this year's draft, tweeted that going overseas may now be an option for him.

The success of last season, on the court, at the box office and in the headlines, convinced many that the sides would never reach this stalemate.

But small-market owners were hardened after watching LeBron James leave Cleveland for Miami, Amare Stoudemire bolt Phoenix for New York, and Carmelo Anthony later use his impending free agency as leverage to secure a trade from Denver to the Knicks. They wanted changes that would allow them to hold onto their superstars and compete for titles with the big-spending teams from Los Angeles, Boston and Dallas who have gobbled up the last four championships.

As the lockout drags on, Stern's legacy as one of sports' best commissioners is weakened. He turned 69 last month, and although he hasn't said when he will retire, he did say this will be his last CBA negotiation after nearly 28 years running the league.

He has insisted all along he wouldn't worry about the damage to his reputation and that his only concern would be getting the deal his owners need.

It's uncertain when that will be. The sides didn't agree until Jan. 6 in 1999, just before the deadline for canceling that entire season. The league ended up with a 50-game schedule, often plagued by poor play as teams were forced to fit too many games into too small of a window.

They could keep meeting now and agree to a deal much sooner this, but a source told ESPN The Magazine's Bucher that a regional meeting for players in Los Angeles originally slated for Monday has been tentatively rescheduled for Thursday, virtually assuring there will be no more negotiating this week. The meeting was rescheduled to allow for Monday's last-ditch effort.

Igraci nisu spustili ispod 53%.. :tambura:
Jos smo "zivi" :biggrin:

Durantula je rekao da ga boli sto nece biti utakmica ali da nema sanse da spuste ispod 53% pa makar se otkazala cela sezona.

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Thanks for the overwhelming support today guys. You know we want to play & you understand the propaganda/misinformation from the owners. SteveNash
October 11, 2011 at 2:20


STERN's "WORDS" 2day hurt the ppl who work at the AAA,other arena's,as well as local businesses &our fans.. DwyaneWade
October 11, 2011 at 5:01


LET US PLAY #StandUnited derekfisher
October 10, 2011 at 16:26


I wanna sincerely say sorry to all the fans! It's a sad day for all of us, especially u guys! There's no US w/o You. #loveuguys KingJames
October 11, 2011 at 6:24


U can't be serious first 2 weeks canceled mannnn we really just want to get back to doing what we do best and what we love #serioustweet OfficialMT23
October 11, 2011 at 4:31


I will continue to do what I've done since July 1- work on my game and my body just like every other NBA player. Anxious to resume my job. JJRedick47
October 11, 2011 at 4:22


So I guess im in Australia a little longer.... AndrewMBogut
October 11, 2011 at 4:28

Yay to the NBPA and NBA for making progress!!! Two weeks not bad! Cheers! Breaking news! More progress real soon Ronartest.com for updates! MettaWorldPeace
October 11, 2011 at 5:10


Izjava Sterna pred novinarima po zavrsetku pregovora:
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/canceltwoweeks-111010/nba-cancels-two-weeks-earns-self-inflicted-wound
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Re: NBA vesti, transferi, aktuelnosti

Postby 71:70 » 11 Oct 2011, 07:13

Šta , u stvari , ovo znači, iliti do kada će šalalalala da povraća po zapisničkim stolovima u crno-belom dresu?
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