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Re: Davis Cup

Postby delgado » 13 Jul 2011, 12:24

Nista, idemo malo analiza...

QF Davis Cupa :

SWEDEN - SERBIA 1:4


Troicki-Riderstid 3-1 ( 63 61 67 75)
Tipsarevic-Elekovic 1-0 RET (62 10 )
Djokovic/Zimonjic vs Lindsted/Aspelin 0-3 (4-6 6-7 5-7)
Tipsarevic-Riderstid 3-0 (62 75 63)
Troicki-Linsted 1-1 RET (36 64)

- Sigurna pobeda Srbije. Troicki van forme totalno, Djokovic previse umoran od Wimbledona, Zimonjic zreo za penziju, Tipsarevic solidan. Pitanje pobednika ovde se nije postavljalo kad je Soderling objavio da nece nastupati za reprezentaciju, a profitirao je Tipsa koji je pored 2 pobede i 130 ATP poena, dobio i bitno samopouzdanje pred nastavak sezone i americku turneju nakon tragicnih dogadjaja na travi. Lepo se poklopilo da je doneo 2 aktivne pobede i ispalo je bolje sto je dubl izgubio tako da je sada na 3 mesta od konacnog cilja a to je top 20... Tipsa je odigrao veoma sigurno svoje meceve, na solidnom nivou, i sada mu preostaje da trenira kako bi odbranio bodove sa americke turneje prosle godine gde je bio odlican dok se nije povredio. Djokovicu ce svakako prijati odmor, on nece igrati nista do Montreala, a Troicki nastavlja svoju kampanju u Vasingtonu...

GERMANY - FRANCE 1:4

Gaske-Majer 3-2 ( 46 46 75 63 63)
Monfis - Koli 3-0 (76 76 64)
Conga/Lodra vs Kas/Pecner 3-0 (76 64 64)
Lodra-Pecner 36 46
Conga-Koli 76 76

- Francuzi ponovo pobedjuju Nemce, ovoga puta u Nemackoj, u Stutgartu. Ipak su Francuzi jaci i tu nema price. Monfis je uzasan matchup za Kolija, uvek ga dobije posle velike borbe, Koli je uspeo samo nedavno u Haleu na Gaelovoj najslabijoj podlozi da odnese pobede, ostale meceve, ukljucujuci i ovaj u DC, kao i u proslogodisnji, dobio je Francuz. Majer je imao sansu da svojoj reprezentaciji donese prvi bod, i tako oslobodi saigraca Kolija pritiska, ali je imao i probleme sa povredom, pa je prokockao vodjstvo od 2-0 protiv Gaskea. Dubl je bio 50-50, medjutim bilo je jasno da posle 0-2 Nemci gotovo da nemaju sansi. Conga i Lodra su odlicno odradili posao, pa su singl mecevi u nedelju bili samo formalnost. Pecner je rutinski dobio Lodru , tipicnom pobedom od 6-3 6-4, a Conga je nadjacao Kolija u 2 TajBrejka. Simpaticna Francuska reprezentacija predvodjena trojicom vrhunskih igraca i mentalnih gromada - Congom, Gaskeom i Monfisom ide dalje, u polufinale, na spansku sljaku smrti.

ARGENTINA - KAZAHSTAN 5:0

Monako - Golubev 3-0 (63 60 64)
Del Potro - Kukuskin 3-0 ( 62 61 62)
Cela/Svank - Korolev/Scukin 3-0 (63 62 75)
Cela - Korolev 2-1 (62 26 60)
Monako - Kukuskin 2-0 (64 61)

- Kao i mec Srbija-Svedska, veoma nezanimljiv zbog cinjenice da su junaci Kazahstanske reprezentacije Kukuskin i Golubev u velikom raspadanju. Kukuskin je prosle godine bio junak pobedivsi VaVrinku, a Golubev je u prvom kolu dobio Berdiha, i uspeli su da prodju cak u cetvrtfinale... Medjutim, ove godine imaju dobre renkinge zahvaljujuci titulama iz prosle godine - Golubeva ocekuje jedan fini katapult unazad na ATP listi kada prodje Hamburg, gde brani 500 bodova, a Kukuskinu kad se skine StP ispasce iz 100, takodje. Argentinci su to resili sa samo jednim izgubljenim setom i to u proformalnom mecu. Monako i DelPo su ugazili mlade , talentovano, ali jos uvek nezrele 24togodisnje kazahstanske tenisere, koji imaju potencijal , ali treba jos mnogo rada. Za Argentinu ce mnogo zavisiti od zdravlja DelPa i Nalbija, mada mozda je i Monako bolji izbor od Davida za singl meceve. Ocekuje ih nemoguca misija, da osvoje beogradsku Arenu, neosvojivu tvrdjavu do sada...

USA vs SPAIN 1:3

Lopez-Fis 3-2 ( 64 36 63 67 86)
Ferer-Rodik 3-0(76 75 63)
Brajan/Brajan - Verdasko/Granoljers 3-1 (67 64 64 64)
Ferer- Fis 3-1 (76 75 57 76)

- Prvi mec je mozda i odredio sudbinu ovog meca. Fantastican mec, uzbudljiv, atmosfera vruca, servisi ubitacni, Fis je dogurao do petog seta i odmah napravio brejk, tada se potpuno raspomamio, podivljao, imao 40-15 u narednom servis gemu i onda se samoubio. Terali su se tako do 7-6 za Felija, i onda je Lopez odigrao fantastican passing iz bekenda za pobedu.. Potom je Rodik , koji se polako gasi igracki, izasao na teren i doziveo jos jednu blamazu - izgubio je od jos jednog spanca na brzoj podlozi u 3 seta. Napravio je brejk na startu, ali mu je servis visio u vazduhu sve vreme jer ga je Dacha klao u razmenama, i samo se cekalo da Rodik popusti sa servom i da ga Dacha ubije. Propsutio je 40-0 i potom jos 2 prednosti, dakle 5 vezanih set lopti na svoj servis - to je definitivno znak da sa Rodjom nesto nije u redu. Dacha je posle ogromne borbe dobio tb sa 11-9 i to je potpuno demorasilo Rodika koji je lagano poklekao u naredna 2 seta. Dubl su posle izvesnih poteskoca dobila braca Brajan, ali Ferer je jos jednom ispao veliki junak spanske DC reprezentacije jer je tukao i Fisa , ovoga puta u 4 seta i svoju zemlju odveo u polufinale. U odsustvu Rafaela Nadala, Daca je tu uvek da na bilo sljaci ili brzoj podlozi sjajno zameni velikog Rafu i donese bodove svom timu. Spanska armada je pobedila, a Amerikanci iscekuju mlade nade Harisona i Janga za neke vece rezultate u DC-u. Rodik i Fis se polako gase, ali to ne znaci da nece moci da odigraju jos vrhunskog tenisa. Ovde mislim na Fisa, koji je igrao QF Wimbledona, ovde ga je mozda sustigao umor, dok je Rodik od Majamija 2010. u nezaustavljivom padu, koji je malo ublazen dobrim partijama u Sinsinatiju...

POLUFINALA

SRBIJA-ARGENTINA
SPANIJA-FRANCUSKA

Sta reci ... Finale Srbija-Spanija svi ocekujemo i velike su sanse da to dog velikog finala i obracuna dodje.

Ne znamo timove i zdravstvene biltene, pa cemo analizirati kada za to dodje vreme. Za sada da se posvetimo turnirima po Americi...

- Najatrakvniji i najuzbudljiviji mec, ali ostao je takav na papiru, Ameri su se bas obrukali pred domacom publikom i njihovom podlogom. Imaju 2 top 10 igraca, najbolji dubl na svetu, podlogu, publiku, a opet mrka kapa.
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Re: Davis Cup

Postby Saint-Tropez » 13 Jul 2011, 12:30

Dejan wrote:Žreb za play-off (mečevi se igraju 16-18. 09 )

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Australia v SWITZERLAND

Ovo bi moglo da bude interesantno: kako ce Fed (ako bude igrao) da odigra s Tomicem (i obrnuto).
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Re: Davis Cup

Postby Goca_64 » 13 Jul 2011, 13:47

@ Delgado, sjajna analiza u ova dosadna vremena kada svi eskiviramo pisanje, nego se nekako uvek nadamo da udjemo i tek nesto procitamo. No, tako je uvek dok se ATP odmara od napornog prvog dela sezone.
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Re: Davis Cup

Postby delgado » 13 Jul 2011, 13:53

Kakav crni odmor, za 2 nedelje pocinje LA... Ja se dotle odjavljujem a onda cemo da slavimo prvi titulu...
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Re: Davis Cup

Postby Milutinov Tata » 14 Jul 2011, 04:17

Goca_64 wrote:@ Delgado, sjajna analiza u ova dosadna vremena kada svi eskiviramo pisanje, nego se nekako uvek nadamo da udjemo i tek nesto procitamo. No, tako je uvek dok se ATP odmara od napornog prvog dela sezone.


Meni je neka frka na poslu, a i nekako sam psihicki umoran posle ovih neverovatnih sest meseci. Ali za vikend cu se malo raspisem :tenis:

Kanada je za vikend napravila veliki preokret protiv Ekvadora i posle 0-2 dobila mec, bez Raonica u timu. Posle 6 godina su prvi put u play off-u.

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Re: Davis Cup

Postby Milutinov Tata » 14 Jul 2011, 04:22

Evo jos par slicica iz Ekvadora:

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Re: Davis Cup

Postby Goca_64 » 14 Jul 2011, 14:36

Milutinov Tata wrote:
Meni je neka frka na poslu, a i nekako sam psihicki umoran posle ovih neverovatnih sest meseci. Ali za vikend cu se malo raspisem :tenis:


Raspisi se, raspisi se... iako, ima jos dosta vremena do USO-a, ali pocni da pripremas temu ;). Ti si "overen" za otvaranje GS tema, ne menjamo te vise :laugh:
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Re: Davis Cup

Postby Liv » 14 Jul 2011, 14:36

The changing times of the Davis Cup
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During our recent 5 Live tennis coverage, you may have heard an entertaining tale from 80 years ago which perfectly illustrates how the status of the Davis Cup has changed over the decades.

In 1931, the Wimbledon men's singles final didn't happen.

Sidney Wood was awarded the title by walkover after his scheduled opponent, Frank Shields, pulled out through injury.

Except that's not exactly true.

Shields was actually instructed to pull out by the United States Tennis Association because they were keen to rest him ahead of an important Davis Cup match with Britain the following week.

Shields, who was one of the actress Brooke Shields's grandfathers, did actually pick up an injury during his Wimbledon semi-final.

But, according to the late Wood's recently-published memoirs, it wasn't severe enough to rule Shields out of the final, and he wanted to play.

He was basically rested for Davis Cup duty by being pulled out of the Wimbledon final!

How times change.
The Davis Cup is a proud and historic competition. Ties have unique atmospheres and generate some of the best noise and competition in tennis.

In Austin, Texas, where the United States meet Spain in a quarter-final, nothing else will matter. The Americans will bond together and "play for the flag". They will commit to the tie as royally as Frank Shield, his team-mates and his USTA governors.

But Rafa Nadal won't be there for Spain. Like Roger Federer and many other top players, Nadal picks and chooses his ties.

And this one has come too soon after his crushing loss to Novak Djokovic at SW19 and the foot injury he picked up on his way to the final.

For Andy Murray, the Davis Cup has marginally beaten fantasy football in his priority list over the last two years.

Finding the strength of mind to carry a British team through a relatively insignificant weekend - at home to Luxembourg in Glasgow - is almost as tough as dragging his aching body through it.

Murray's hip flexor was giving him grief in his last two matches at Wimbledon and, ideally, he would rest for a couple of weeks before heading out to the American hard courts ahead of the US Open.

Yet these are not normal circumstances, this being the politically confused sport of tennis.

The Davis Cup has to fit in around the ATP World Tour and the Grand Slams. It needs to jump into the rest weeks and poke its nose into any slight gap in the players' relentless schedules.

Asking the stars to come out for best-of-five set tennis the week after Wimbledon is hardly conducive to a happy tennis family, although it is important to note that the players actually voted for these weeks.

Unlike Nadal, and his uncharacteristic outburst during Wimbledon, Murray is not complaining about the schedule though.

"It's not the weeks, it's never been the weeks," he said, "A few things happened which I didn't enjoy that much [with the previous Davis Cup regime]. They've been sorted out, but it took a while."

His cryptic comments will raise eyebrows and will recall events in Liverpool two years ago when he fell out with his then captain John Lloyd about whether he was fit to play against Poland.

The pair then clashed again when Britain lost to Lithuania last year and Lloyd pointed the finger at a perceived part-time commitment from Murray.

Lloyd has since been replaced by Murray's former junior coach Leon Smith.

Ahead of his first tie since that fateful Liverpool match, Murray arrived in Glasgow on Sunday night, earlier than expected, and says he's been enjoying the team spirit and practice sessions.

"I like playing for my country, always have done," he said. "I'm sure I'll play a bit more in future ties."

Whether he'd still be playing if the rules for Olympic qualification were different is a matter for debate though. He needs to receive an official on-site team nomination twice in the Olympic cycle to be eligible for London 2012.

One day he'd love to win the Davis Cup for Britain but without any sign of world class back-up in the backwaters of Euro Africa Zone Two that dream is distant.

The sport isn't played like it was in Sidney Wood and Frank Shields's day. It is faster, harder, more punishing, more brutal on the body.

But more than that, it is more mentally gruelling. It's no longer a game played by friends on lawns for prizes of picnic hampers. With soaring prize money and reputations resting on every rivalry - not to mention the intensity surrounding every big match-up - the
top players are usually shot to pieces by the end of a major fortnight.

The Davis Cup is a magnificent thing to win, as Novak Djokovic proved for Serbia with their spectacular triumph earlier this year, and it also helps bring funding and international competition to virtually every nation on the plant (tennis is the second most popular sport in terms of nations competing globally).

But the whole thing needs a radical rethink, way beyond moving forward the final by two weeks (which the ITF has announced for 2012 and 2013).

Exactly one week after playing the world number one on Wimbledon's centre court, Murray plays someone without a world ranking, Laurent Bram, at an area attached to a shopping centre in the west of Glasgow (just past the food court, in case you are looking).

On the one hand it emphasises the beauty of the competition, but on the other it exposes extreme silliness.

Murray's life is completely devoted to winning a major singles championship and, despite his upbeat comments here, playing best-of-five set tennis on a non-Grand Slam surface, having moved from grass to indoor hard in the space of a week, doesn't feature as
perfect prep.

Meanwhile Nadal goes fishing off the Majorcan coast as Spain takes on the USA thousands of miles away.

The Davis Cup requires fresh thinking and, ultimately, radical overhaul.

And before you ask, I don't have the perfect solution. But between us - as tennis fans - I bet we could come up with ten good concepts which could ensure player participation, fit within the calendar, and re-energise the competition.

The tricky thing would then be convincing the powers that be...
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Serbia, new Wimbledon champions Novak Djokovic's birthplace, are the current holders of the Davis Cup
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Re: Davis Cup

Postby Clarissa » 18 Jul 2011, 10:47

Ne znam da li je neko ovo objavio, slučajno pogledam u besplatnim novinama "24 sata" (samo njih i kupujem :laugh: ), skenirala sam, a kako mi je NBS ispod stana, odoh iz ovih stopa :manikir: (nadam se da NBS ne tretiraju kao muzej,muzeji obično ne rade ponedeljkom ).
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Re: Davis Cup

Postby Clarissa » 18 Jul 2011, 12:17

Drugari, bila sam napolju, mnogo je vruće. Šta jesti po ovakvom vremenu ? Salatu ? Ja sam obezbedila činiju, a vi kupite voće. Dogovoreno ?
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Biće još slika :jos: samo da ih izaberem i odredim redosled.
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Re: Davis Cup

Postby Clarissa » 18 Jul 2011, 13:12

Videla sam je, videla !
Nalazi se u NBS, nemojte da se zeznete pa odete u Knez Mihailovu, radi se o novoj zgradi na Slaviji, a ulaz je na uglu Namanjine i Svetozara Markovića
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Prvo sam slikala krišom :crybaby: , da me ne vide čike :police: koje čuvaju, a onda sam provalila da je dozvoljeno :bleh: .
Ono što upada u oči je da nema ugravirane naše reprezentacije :krsti: . Doduše poslednja gravura je iz 2007.
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... ali ima praznih mesta :jos: .
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Mislim da je najstarija gravura iz 1933., ali slabo se vidi, važno je da se vidi moja ruka :roll: (UK : Francuska 3 - 2 )
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Možda ima i starija, malo je nezgodno vrteti se oko onog postolja i zagledati.
Postoji i knjiga utisaka, mislim da je ovo Boba
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ali mnogo više me impresioniralo ono što su pisala deca
Buduća JJ
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ili budući Nole
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Jedan lik je složio pesmu sve u desetercu :laugh: , nažalost za to treba skener
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(...nastavak pesme na drugoj strani )
Imala sam ideju da nas upišem kao Avangarda forum ili potpišem nas koji pišemo na tenisu, ali kako se ništa nismo dogovorili nisam ništa ni uradila :dunno: . Bilo bi lepo da se svi potpišemo nickovima, ako neko ne može da dođe ( Beograđani nemaju opravdanje :stani: ), hajde da sastavimo tekst, pa neko neka počne, a mi ćemo da produžimo i potpišemo one koji nisu u prilici. Kako će salatara stajati 2 meseca prijavljivanje može da krene, ako vam se ideja dopada.
Ipak, najlepše je doći i videti sam :biggrin: , dotle, još jedna slika
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Re: Davis Cup

Postby Goca_64 » 18 Jul 2011, 14:46

Fenomenalno, Klarisa, fenomenalno. A, i ideja ti je sjajna. Nisam ni ja daleko od salatare, uslovno receno, ali... mnogo je toplo, a ja vozim auto bez klime (cicijasila sam za soma maraka onda kada sam ga kupovala, u fazonu - sta ce mi klima za "jedva"dva meseca leta) i nema sanse da sednem u njega dok se T ne spusti oko ili ispod 30 stepeni... Doduse, salataru sam videla iz daljine onomad u Areni :manikir: , ali iz daleka...
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Re: Davis Cup

Postby Liv » 18 Jul 2011, 19:42

Sjajno Clarissa! :thumbup:
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Re: Davis Cup

Postby Maki » 18 Jul 2011, 23:26

Genijalno Clarissa.! :thumbup:

Ona devojka nas je i pitala nesto ali niko da joj odgovori.. :confused:

Clarissa wrote:Imala sam ideju da nas upišem kao Avangarda forum ili potpišem nas koji pišemo na tenisu, ali kako se ništa nismo dogovorili nisam ništa ni uradila :dunno: . Bilo bi lepo da se svi potpišemo nickovima, ako neko ne može da dođe ( Beograđani nemaju opravdanje :stani: ), hajde da sastavimo tekst, pa neko neka počne, a mi ćemo da produžimo i potpišemo one koji nisu u prilici. Kako će salatara stajati 2 meseca prijavljivanje može da krene, ako vam se ideja dopada.


Izvini Clarissa,izgleda da nam je ova nesnosna vrucina svima sprzila mozak i niko ne zna ni kako tekst da pocne a kamoli da ga zavrsi. :laugh:
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Re: Davis Cup

Postby Clarissa » 19 Jul 2011, 07:19

Maki wrote:Genijalno Clarissa.! :thumbup:
Ona devojka nas je i pitala nesto ali niko da joj odgovori.. :confused:
Izvini Clarissa,izgleda da nam je ova nesnosna vrucina svima sprzila mozak i niko ne zna ni kako tekst da pocne a kamoli da ga zavrsi. :laugh:

Hvala na ovome devojka :manikir: :biggrin: . Moj predlog :
ako neko ima inspiraciju neka sastavi tekst, a posle će ga neko upisati (evo, mogu ja ) i staviti spisak forumaša koji to žele, a mogu se prijaviti ovde.
Postoji mogućnost da svi dođemo u isto vreme, ali čini mi se da nije izvodljiva, čak i ako se radi o onima iz Bg.
Takođe postoji mogućnost da uz svoj nick napišemo "Avangarda forum", ali čini mi se da je ovo prvo bolje, ne možemo rezervisati stranicu za sebe :jebiga: , neko od nas može uneti tekst, ali već sledeći posetilac će pisati ispod, tako da nećemo biti zajedno :crybaby: , tj. na jednoj strani.
Zato mislim da je prvi predlog najbolji, neko ko ima inspiraciju počne tekst, tu se, naravno mogu uključiti i drugi da bi smo ga modifikovali, a onda slede nickovi.
Na knjizi utisaka piše NBS, znači ostaće ili u NBS ili u TSS, lepo u svakom slučaju.
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