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Re: Liga šampiona

Postby Hajzenberg » 20 Apr 2021, 17:31

Ma nema grupa, to su već odlučili, džabe se sad lupa glava o tome, nije savršen sistem naravno ali svakako je bolji ili manje gori od aktuelnog gde se igra samo 6 mečeva a od toga ovi velikani imaju po 2 slaba meča, dva malo jača i dva iole jaka.
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Re: Liga šampiona

Postby walterwhite95 » 20 Apr 2021, 19:16

Format je glup kao i trenutna vrhuška Uefe, i ovako već ima previše utakmica što je po mom uverenju i uticalo na pad kvaliteta fudbalske igre, igra se stalno zbog tv i kladionica, igrači imaju slab sindikat za razliku od amerike i tretiraju ih bukvalno ko robove. 36 timova je previše baš pravo frankenštajn takmičenje sa previše utakmica, nacionalne lige neće odustati od svojih termina isto zbog para, Uefa će dodavati još debilnih takmičenja tipa liga nacija isto zbog para, i Uefa i Fifa će širiti svetska i evropska prvenstva u nedogled da bi zaradili. Sa takvim trendovima ovolika liga šampiona ne može da prođe, da se ja pitam ja bi evro takmičenja uredio piramidalno. Dakle prvo takmičenje najboljih 20,25 klubova onda rang ispod drugih 30 klubova i tako dalje. To je po meni najbolji sistem gde ćeš dobiti najbolji kvalitet fudbala jer će isti igrati sa istima a imaš mogućnost napredovanja. Duboko sam uveren da je to najbolje i puno bilo bolje nego da gledamo kako neko tovari neki Maribor ili Ferencvaroš.
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Re: Liga šampiona

Postby Sezione » 20 Apr 2021, 19:23

U te 4 dodatne ekipe ce biti Englezi, Spanci i Zabari, tako da to nece stetiti kvalitetu takmicenja sigurno
U Kosovo se kunete, a po Zvecanu od Srba kradete

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Re: Liga šampiona

Postby Hajzenberg » 20 Apr 2021, 19:30

Jedna će biti iz pete lige u Evropi a to možda i ne budu Francuzi kako se projektovalo da bude prema njima jer su ih Portugalci čak stigli i prestigli na listi ali imaju Francuzi fore da uzmu to četvrto mesto pre njih, onda dve ekipe prema pozivu, one koje se ne plasiraju u LŠ a imaju veliki koeficijent tako da bi to uzele baš jake ekipe i još jedna što ostala, ne mogu da se setim ali svakako bi pripalo verovatno nekom od top 5 liga, u principu Englezi bi mogli do željenih 5-6 mesta, Francuzi na 4 i preostalo još neko od jakih. Znači još 4 jake ekipe u LŠ u globalu.
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Re: Liga šampiona

Postby Cuburac » 20 Apr 2021, 19:56

Spricer je najbolji kad je prst vina i prst sode (horizontalan), kad se previse razvodni , izgubi se slast.
Ako nije dobro, znaci da nije kraj. Ako je dobro, nece jos dugo bito tako.
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Re: Liga šampiona

Postby Grande Alessandro » 20 Apr 2021, 21:08

Posle raspada super lige, sumnjam da ce se LS igrati u ovom formatu koji je predstavljen...ipak ocekujem promene...
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Re: Liga šampiona

Postby dacolik » 20 Apr 2021, 21:16

“Igraci koji su spremni naporno da treniraju , nisu spremni da lako izgube. “

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Re: Liga šampiona

Postby Kreanga » 20 Apr 2021, 21:19

Drago mi sto nece doci do prekida takmicenja.
Da gledamo 2 odlicna 1/2
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Re: Liga šampiona

Postby Џејси Керол » 20 Apr 2021, 21:38

Allez PSG
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Re: Liga šampiona

Postby Kreanga » 20 Apr 2021, 21:48

Pok do titule, posteno.
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Re: Liga šampiona

Postby Hajzenberg » 20 Apr 2021, 22:03

Hajzenberg wrote:Jedna će biti iz pete lige u Evropi a to možda i ne budu Francuzi kako se projektovalo da bude prema njima jer su ih Portugalci čak stigli i prestigli na listi ali imaju Francuzi fore da uzmu to četvrto mesto pre njih, onda dve ekipe prema pozivu, one koje se ne plasiraju u LŠ a imaju veliki koeficijent tako da bi to uzele baš jake ekipe i još jedna što ostala, ne mogu da se setim ali svakako bi pripalo verovatno nekom od top 5 liga, u principu Englezi bi mogli do željenih 5-6 mesta, Francuzi na 4 i preostalo još neko od jakih. Znači još 4 jake ekipe u LŠ u globalu.


To četvrto mesto bi pripalo ekipi koja ima najveći koeficijent a dolazi iz zemlje koja nema direktan plasman u LŠ, tipa Olimpijakos, Kopenhagen, Dinamo...

Ono što je pošteno u ovom slučaju a tiče se ona dva mesta koja dobiju recimo dve engleske ekipe ili neka nemačka ili italijanska sa jakim koeficijentom je to da ta ekipa koja pored toga što naravno ne ide direktno u LŠ ima najmanje u svojoj ligi prethodne sezone obezbeđeno mesto za kvalifikacije za bilo koja od tri evropska takmičenja. Primera radi Arsenal bi bio po koeficijentu jedna od te dve ekipe ali oni buđavci ove sezone u PL neće biti ni na mestu koje vodi čak ni u konferencijske kvalifikacije pa shodno tome bi ispušili u svakom slučaju da dobiju jedno od ta dva mesta. Druga je stvar što oni kao aktuelni polufinalisti LE imaju šanse da direktno uđu u LŠ ako osvoje to takmičenje. Pošteno, osvojiš deseto, petnaesto mesto i onda nema LŠ u svakom slučaju.

Oni su ovo usvojili juče ali me ne bi čudilo da ovaj novi sistem sa više utakmica i više klubova iz najjačih liga ne krene ako ne ove onda sledeće godine jer čisto sumnjam da će sad UEFA čekati 2024 g. za primenu novog sistema posle ovog pičvajza iako su ranije decidno trvdili da ne mogu pre sezone 24/25, sad će morati nekako da zadovolje ove velike što pre.
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Re: Liga šampiona

Postby Crna Ovca » 20 Apr 2021, 22:17

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Re: Liga šampiona

Postby Inzaghi » 20 Apr 2021, 22:24

Bert je apdejtovao clanak o novoj LS

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New format for Champions League post-2024: everything you need to know
Copyright © 2021 UEFA

The 2024/25 edition of the UEFA Champions League will follow a new format. We explain what
will change, what will stay the same, what it means for fans and how it impacts UEFA’s
other club competitions.

There is a reason that European football is one of the world’s most successful and popular
sports. It never stands still. Since the inaugural competition, known as the European
Champion Clubs’ Cup, kicked off in 1955, UEFA has continuously evolved and adapted the
Champions League to keep pace with wider changes in the game

To ensure the new 2024/25 format will deliver the best for clubs, players and fans, UEFA
based its design on extensive consultations with key stakeholders in the European football
community. The reforms received unanimous backing on 19 April from both the European Club
Association (ECA) Board and the UEFA Club Competitions Committee (composed of a majority
of club representatives).

"This evolved format will still keep alive the dream of any team in Europe to participate
in the UEFA Champions League thanks to results obtained on the pitch and it will enable
long-term viability, prosperity, and growth for everyone in European football, not just a
tiny, self-selected cartel," said UEFA President Aleksander Čeferin.


How will the 2024/25 competition change?

The pivotal change in the reforms announced by the UEFA Executive Committee after its
meeting on 19 April 2021 is the departure from the current format’s opening 32-team group
stage. The present Champions League season begins with participants divided into eight
groups of four. From the 2024/25 season, there will be a single league made up of all 36
competing clubs. This will give four more sides the opportunity to compete against the
best clubs in Europe.

Under the new format, teams will play four matches more than is currently the case. They
will no longer play three opponents twice – home and away – but will instead face fixtures
against 10 different teams, half of them at home and half of them away. This gives the
opportunity for clubs to test themselves against a wider range of opponents – and also
raises the prospect of fans seeing the top teams go head to head more often earlier in the
competition. The new format should mean that there is more to play for right up until the
final night of league action.


How will the four additional spots be allocated?

Qualification for the Champions League will continue to be open and depend on a club’s
final position in the previous season’s domestic league competition. The additional four
slots available in 2024/25 will be allocated according to three different criteria:

• Slot one: awarded to a club from the country placed fifth in UEFA’s national association
coefficient rankings. Each association's coefficient is based on the results of its clubs’
performances in five previous Champions League and Europa League seasons.

• Slot two: awarded to the domestic league champion with the highest club coefficient
among all other domestic champions that have not automatically qualified for the Champions
League’s league stage.

• Slots three and four: awarded to the two clubs with the highest club coefficients that
have not qualified automatically for the Champions League’s league stage, but have
qualified either for the Champions League qualification phase or the Europa League/the
Europa Conference League (due to start in the 2021/22 season).


How will the last 16 take shape?

The results of each match will decide the overall ranking in the new league, with three
points for a win and one for a draw still applying.

While the top eight teams will advance automatically to the round of 16, those sides
placed between ninth and 24th will enter a play-off round. Those who finished between
ninth and 16th will be seeded in the play-off draw, meaning they will face a team placed
17th to 24th – with home advantage in the second-leg match. Teams who finish 25th or lower
will be eliminated, with no access to the UEFA Europa League.

The eight clubs who prevail in the play-offs will then progress to the round of 16 where
they will each face one of the top-eight finishers.


Do the changes impact the knockout stages?

From the round of 16 onward, the competition will continue to follow its existing format
of knockout rounds leading to the final staged at a neutral venue selected by UEFA.


What does the new Champions League format mean for fans?

• More opportunities to see Europe’s top teams playing each other earlier in the
competition.

• Every game counts. The new league format will ensure that any result has the potential
to dramatically change a team’s position, right up the very last matchday. Winning or
losing could make the difference between a side automatically qualifying for the last 16,
entering the play-offs or being eliminated from the competition.


Will UEFA's other club competitions adopt the same format?

Yes. In addition to the Champions League, both the Europa League and the all new Europa
Conference League – due to kick off in the 2021/22 season – will also evolve to replace
their group stage with a single league. The new format can be adapted as needed to each
competition, both in terms of the number of teams and the number of matches.


What are the next steps in preparing the ground for the new format's introduction
in 2024?

Further decisions regarding matters such as the rebalancing of the access list, match
dates, seeding system, format for the finals, coefficients and financial distribution will
be made by the end of 2021. Potential adjustments to the format approved on 19 April could
still be made if necessary.


How will the new format benefit the wider European game?

The changes made are designed to secure the positive future of European football at every
level and meet the evolving needs of all its stakeholders. Unequivocally confirming joint
commitment to the principle of open competition and sporting merit across the continent,
the common purpose has also been to sustain domestic leagues.

UEFA has also reaffirmed its strong financial commitment to the whole of European football
and will initiate steps to ensure that greater financial solidarity will be delivered to a
wider spectrum of clubs who do not participate in UEFA club competitions. This will
reinforce the solid foundation on which the game in Europe is built.


Continuous evolution

Our Champions League and Europa League timelines show in more detail how each competition
has evolved, from the origins of the European Champion Clubs’ Cup, which kicked off in
1955, the UEFA Cup and the Cup Winners’ Cup into their existing formats.
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Re: Liga šampiona

Postby Hajzenberg » 20 Apr 2021, 22:28

Da, to je u načelu ovo što sam pisao, dve jake ekipe iz top 5, Francuska/Portugal još jedno mesto i četvrto mesto jedan tim sa jakim koeficijentom a njegova zemlja nema direktan pristup LŠ.

Eto šanse Englezima za 5-6 mesta + šta ako neki Everton, WHU, Lester ili neko drugi osvoji i LE pa eto im trećine lige u LŠ :biggrin:

Ali ako ovo bude stvarno tek za tri godine ko će još ove naredne tri sezone gledati onakvo mučenje po grupama...
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Re: Liga šampiona

Postby Radonjaa » 20 Apr 2021, 22:58

Grande Alessandro wrote:Neka liga krene ranije, zasto se ceka septembar? Npr. vec sredinom avgusta, kada i vecina prvensta...


To je skoro nemoguće, zbog termina kvalifikacija. Kvalifikacije kreću već oko 25. juna za one koji igraju pretkolo, a nacionalne lige uglavnom traju do kraja maja. Ne vidim kako bi se to moglo dodatno ubrzati, a da bude iole humano.

Novi sistem mi je ok, iako naravno ima mana, ali mislim da je promjena donijela više dobrog nego lošeg. Ovo 1. sa 16. i 2. sa 15. će smanjiti šansu da u istoj fazi takmičenja jedan par budu Gent i Volfsburg, a drugi Bajern i Juventus, kao prije par godina, mada ima (iako manje ekstremnih) primjera iz sezone u sezonu.

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