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Re: Rafael Nadal

Postby vicharhcp » 22 Aug 2011, 18:01

Jel se vama cini na ova poslednja dva turnira da je Nadal jos vise smrsao? Meni se cini da je mrsaviji nego ikad.
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Re: Rafael Nadal

Postby Maki » 22 Aug 2011, 18:11

vicharhcp wrote:Jel se vama cini na ova poslednja dva turnira da je Nadal jos vise smrsao? Meni se cini da je mrsaviji nego ikad.


Nije da mi se cini vec sam se zabezeknula kad sam ga videla u Montrealu. :huh: Pred svaki mec svi komentarisu o tome, ali niko ne zna o cemu se radi...
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Re: Rafael Nadal

Postby vicharhcp » 22 Aug 2011, 18:16

Ja nisam bila ovde poslednja dva turnira, pa nisam znala da ste raspravljali :dunno: , ali sam se i ja zaprepastila! Totalno se fizicki promenio!
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Re: Rafael Nadal

Postby Maki » 22 Aug 2011, 18:27

Vich,nismo samo mi raspravljali, vec razni strucnjaci sirom sveta i na njih sam mislila.I ovi nasi komenatori kad god pocne njegov mec, to je prvo o cemu se prica.

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Re: Rafael Nadal

Postby Liv » 22 Aug 2011, 18:29

Mozda je napokon poceo da slusa doktore :)
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Re: Rafael Nadal

Postby Gama » 22 Aug 2011, 18:30

Ma to je zbog Novaka, svi se bacili na dijetu :D. I Marej je, ako sam dobro razumela, smrsao oko 5kg.
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Re: Rafael Nadal

Postby vicharhcp » 22 Aug 2011, 18:34

Ma, ja sam prosle dve nedelje najveci deo vremena provodila pod vodom, a turnire sam povremeno samo gledala i to krajickom oka, obicno spremajuci se u hotelskoj sobi da negde idem. Internetu nisam pristupila dve nedelje, a nisam imala ni priliku (ni zelju) da citam strane sportske novine. Nisam imala pojma (do sada) da je to igde bila tema. Pogresno sam te razumela.
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Re: Rafael Nadal

Postby vicharhcp » 22 Aug 2011, 18:36

Gama wrote:Ma to je zbog Novaka, svi se bacili na dijetu :D. I Marej je, ako sam dobro razumela, smrsao oko 5kg.

Ovo sam i ja sinoc cula. I Marej je promenio rezim ishrane.
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Re: Rafael Nadal

Postby Milutinov Tata » 22 Aug 2011, 18:42

Kod Nadala je velika razlika u izdanjima na ova dva turnira prosle i ove godine. Meni se cini da mu je za nesto vise potrebno da prve nedelje izbegne opasne protivnike da bi kako tako dosao do svoje igre i ritma, pa posle sta bude. Izgubio je pocetnu prednost, u ovom trenutku verovatno mnogi misle da bi mogli protiv njega, pa se nece zadovoljiti jednim TB na mecu.

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Re: Rafael Nadal

Postby Maki » 22 Aug 2011, 18:46

Evo njegove izjave od danas:

Nadal: "Moram bolje za US open"

Branilac titule na US openu Rafael Nadal svestan je da mora da poboljša igru pred poslednji Grend slem turnir u sezoni.

“Moram da igram svoju igru, da budem agresivan i brže da se krećem. Treba da igram sa više intenziteta i da pravim manje grešaka”.

“Nekada igram dobro, ali nije mi ni prvi put u karijeri da nisam na tako visokom nivou”, rekao je Nadal, koji je u prošlogodišnjem finalu savladao Novaka Đokovića sa 3-1 u setovima.

Nadal je u Montrealu ispao već u drugom kolu od Ivana Dodiga, dok ga je u Sinsinatiju eliminisao Mardi Fiš u četvrtfinalu. Ipak, Španac je i prošle sezone ispao u istoj fazi u Sinsinatiju, ali uspeo je da za kratko vreme podigne nivo igre.

“Prošle godine igrao sam užasno u Sinsinatiju, verovatno gore nego ove godine. Važno je da budem spreman da promenim situaciju i da budem fizički i psihički svež”.

Drugi teniser sveta kaže da je servis bio ključan u njegovom prošlogodišnjem pohodu ka trofeju.

“Nisam mnogo promenio svoj način igre za US open prošle sezone. Servis mi je veoma dobro funkcionisao i igrao sam dobro. Imao sam još uspeha na betonu, ne samo tada – osvojio sam Olimpijske igre, Montreal, Toronto, Indijan Vels dva puta… Tako da se prošle godine u Njujorku nije dogodilo nešto mnogo drugačije, samo sam igrao dobro i servis mi je išao bolje nego inače”.

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Re: Rafael Nadal

Postby Gama » 22 Aug 2011, 18:53

Ma ne sumnjam uopste da ce Rafa sasvim drugacije da zaigra na USO. Stize i Toni :roll: , servis mu je u principu dobar. Samo treba vise da radi na bh. Mislim da je i osvojio titulu prosle godine zahvaljujuci odlicnom bh a ne samo zbog servisa.
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Re: Rafael Nadal

Postby Gama » 22 Aug 2011, 22:36

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Re: Rafael Nadal

Postby Liv » 22 Aug 2011, 22:55

Perhaps the strangest revelation is Nadal’s dislike of animals, especially dogs: “I doubt their intentions.”

Kako bilo ko moze da ne voli zivotinje?! i to pse :sakaosto:

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Re: Rafael Nadal

Postby Liv » 22 Aug 2011, 23:07

U bre, po ovom njegovom opisu Toni je tiranin.
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Thursday’s excerpt details just how tough the famously stern Uncle Toni really was on his young charge. Rafa recalls coming home in tears after practice sessions with his uncle, who was the coach at a local club in Manacor. Eager not to show favoritism during group lessons, Toni chucked balls at his daydreaming nephew, made him pick up more balls than the other kids and sweep the court – a habit he’s famously continued into his superstar period. Here’s the gist of their relationship in the early years:

My mother remembers that, as a small child, sometimes I’d come home from training crying. She’d try to get me to tell her what the matter was, but I preferred to keep quiet.

Once I confessed to her that Toni had a habit of calling me a “mummy’s boy”, which pained her, but I begged her not to say anything to Toni, because that would only have made matters worse.

Toni never let up. Once I started playing competitive games, aged seven, it got tougher. One very hot day I went to a match without my bottle of water. I’d left it at home. He could have gone and bought me one, but he didn’t. So that I’d learn to take responsibility, he said. Why didn’t I rebel? Because I enjoyed tennis, and enjoyed it all the more once I started winning, and because I was an obedient and docile child. My mother says I was too easy to manipulate.

Even more shocking to me is learning that Uncle Toni is still bringing Rafa down, including during matches when he illegally coaches from the stands. More from Rafal: During a match I’ll hear him say, “Play aggressive!” before a return of serve . I’ll go for it, the ball will go out, and then he’ll say, “Now wasn’t the moment”. But it was the moment; it just happened that I messed up the shot. If the ball had gone in, he’d have said, “Perfect!” The atmosphere in our team is tenser when Toni’s around than when he’s not.

It’s a surprise to read such a blunt description of the Uncle/Nephew/Coach/Player relationship from Rafa’s own (ghostwriter’s) pen. Toni has always enjoyed the reputation of a fairly benevolent task master, but Rafa’s accounts of tears and heaps of “abuse” under his tutelage cast his uncle in a much harsher light. Of course, Rafa is sure to credit his uncle’s for his incredible success.

Everything I have achieved in the game of tennis, all the opportunities I have had, are thanks to him. I’m especially grateful to him for having placed so much emphasis from the very beginning on making sure I kept my feet on the ground and never became complacent.

While Toni’s refusal to let me off the hook has its value, in that he pushes me always to improve and do better, it can also be bad because he creates insecurity.

Rafa’s still working on the whole emotional manipulation thing:

The point is to hold on to the lessons I’ve absorbed from Toni but to impose my own judgment more, striving to find the right balance between humility and overconfidence. . .What I am trying to teach myself now is . . .to exercise more autonomy over my life and disagree more openly with him.

Okay great, juicy, honest stuff, but why did Rafa put this in a book for all to read? (Besides the cynical explanation that it will help sell more books.) Is Rafa hoping that Uncle Toni will take note and perhaps keep quiet during his quarterfinal vs. Fish on Friday? Instead of continuing to argue and simmer, Rafa can just spit out something like “Page 94, Toni!” It’s kind of a passive aggressive tactic, but well. . . just ask Fernando Verdasco about that.

I imagine Uncle Toni skimming the chapter with a chuckle, tossing it back to his anxiously hovering nephew and saying “Enough of this. Get back on the practice court, you momma’s boy.”

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Devastated and “without appetite for life,” Rafael Nadal contemplated a move into professional golf after a career-threatening injury sidelined him, the 10-time Grand Slam champion writes in his autobiography.

The Spanish player writes in “Rafa” that doctors discovered a rare foot injury in 2005 that had the potential to sideline him for good, prompting thoughts of a future in golf.

In the book, provided to The Associated Press and to be released in the United States on Tuesday, the 25-year-old Nadal describes his toughest on-court battles with Roger Federer at the 2008 Wimbledon final and subsequent Australian Open.

But his off-court problems play a large part in the former top-ranked player’s career. The mental toll of his parents’ separation hindered his recovery from injuries in 2009, when pride led him to try to defend his French Open title despite his physical problems.

Still, his lowest point seems to have been when doctors discovered a congenital bone problem in the bridge of his left foot soon after a five-set victory over Ivan Ljubicic in Madrid on his toughest indoor surface.

Nadal said that joy was soon replaced by “a state of deepest gloom.”

“(The) diagnosis had initially been like a shot to the head,” Nadal writes. “The bone still hurts me. It remains under control, just, but we can never drop our guard.”

Nadal wept then, just as he did after losing the 2007 Wimbledon final to Federer. But he did not cry on the flight from Melbourne in 2009 when his father, Sebastian, revealed to the recently crowned Australian Open champion that his parents had separated.

“My attitude was bad. I was depressed, lacking in enthusiasm. (My team) knew something had to give,” writes Nadal, with the weight of those problems leading to his only defeat in seven appearances at Roland Garros and his subsequent withdrawal from Wimbledon. “My knees were the immediate reason, but I knew the root cause was my state of mind.”

Mental toughness—instilled by coach and uncle Toni—is a key theme, especially in his ability to bounce back, including trying for his first victory in three Wimbledon finals against Federer.

Nadal was “gripped with fear.” The warrior figure he’d cultivated had “lost his courage” after failing to clinch victory on several match point opportunities against Federer. Nadal credits moments like these for improving his mental stamina, with one chapter even titled “Fear of Winning.”

“What I battle hardest to do in a tennis match is to quiet the voices in my head, to shut everything out of my mind … should a thought of victory suggest itself, crush it,” Nadal writes on the opening page before later adding: “I think I have the capacity to accept difficulties and overcome them that is superior to many of my rivals.”

Toni’s “cruel to be kind” coaching strategy was key in developing him into the “tennis machine” he is. He compares his uncle to a figure descended from 16th-century conquistador Hernan Cortes with a Spartan philosophy of life uncommon to his home island of Mallorca.

“There was no let up from Toni. No mercy,” the second-ranked player writes. “I look back at that teenage Rafael and I am proud of him. He set a benchmark of endurance that has served me as an example and as a reminder … if you want something badly enough, no sacrifice is too great.”

Nadal offers interesting insight into his regimen, and his family offers some surprising details about the Manacor native, in the 250-page memoir, which was written by John Carlin, who also wrote the book that director Clint Eastwood turned into the film “Invictus.”

Nadal’s mother Ana Maria Parera labels him a “scaredy cat” who sleeps with a light on, an obedient and docile child who became the “family mascot” inside a close-knit family that Carlin describes as “something Sicilian … without the malice or guns.”

Of Federer there are mostly respectful reflections of a rival and friend that he calls “a blessed freak of nature” for his talent.

The closest Nadal comes to criticism is when he says Federer mis-hit a shot “the way an ordinary club player might” while recounting the epic All-England final that delivered the first of his two Wimbledon wins.

Of current top-ranked player Novak Djokovic, who has beaten Nadal in five straight finals this year, there is trepidation of a “formidable opponent” who is “one hell of a player, temperamental but hugely talented.”
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Re: Rafael Nadal

Postby Saint-Tropez » 22 Aug 2011, 23:49

Liv wrote:U bre, po ovom njegovom opisu Toni je tiranin.

Uopste me ne iznenadjuje, naprotiv.
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